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 Post subject: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:47 pm 
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Considering that eggshells are required for each nest armor piece can the eggshells be set in a way that they at least don't turn out empty. I mean if you go to T4 there are 3 eggshells which require alot of effort just to reach. Not to mention the long respawn time. Please correct me if I'm wrong but is it not the below.

A broken Egg (Nothing spawns)
A Drakeling (Drops Nothing)
Nameds (Which sometimes do not drop eggshells)
Enraged and Seething (Which do drop eggshells)

I've killed all three eggshells at least 10 times over (possibly more) and Ive gotten a total of 6 eggshells. Is there anything that can be done to better this drop rate ? Maybe removing the chances of an empty egg? Just my suggestion of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:20 am 
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I agree that getting Empty Egg and Drakeling just plain sucks. They're is already not that many eggs on each tier and on top of that it not garanted it will drop an eggshell .

Please give us more eggshells !!

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:23 pm 
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There shouldn't be any broken eggs.

However, I can spawn a few more T4 eggs.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:36 pm 
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We've seen broken eggs on all tiers in the Nest. Not very often, but it does happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:54 am 
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Heavy DPS will cause alot of broken shells just FYI.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:50 pm 
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That makes sense.

Basically if you don't see anything pop and the egg is under 5% just stop for 5 seconds and something should pop, your just out dps the script.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:57 pm 
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Vanco wrote:
That makes sense.

Basically if you don't see anything pop and the egg is under 5% just stop for 5 seconds and something should pop, your just out dps the script.


REALLY???? WTH???? Usually we have one person dps'ing the egg to bring it to the raid...usually myself or another monk. How can one person out dps your script...you're killin' me!!

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:48 pm 
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It's a function of how certain scripts work, its a problem I do know how to correct though. Lets say I choose a random Hp value from 90-5% for the egg to pop the NPC. The basic script will only count down each HP value every second just by virtue of how it runs, so if your doing more then 1% per second then there is a lag time, and if it choose a low % of HP you might actually out beat it. Ect mob at 10%, but mobs HP counter is only up to 15% and if you kill it in the next 4 seconds it will never pop. I do know how to work around this, code wise. But that is the explanation.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:57 am 
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Actually Kayen, eggs break at any given point. Ive seen them break on the first hit. The safest way Ive found on eggs is to use a war. 2 swings.. pause... kick... pause.. 2 swings... repeat.


Is there any way to change this to Random spawn on death of the egg ? Is there a reason to have a percentage spawn ?




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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:17 pm 
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Did it again . This time my warrior took about 4 minutes breaking one eggshell using the pause -> swing -> pause-> kick ->pause -> swing method. Not to mention leaving the egg at 50% for like 30 seconds and still I got an empty one. The new eggs are nice though :) . By the way, before this I used the epic beastlord pet. I sent him in let him hit twice and then used Hold. Continued the process for more than 1-2 minutes. Same result as above. However the last try did give me a mini Silveth something.

Out of 6 eggs I got one eggshell , 3 broken ones, 2 a drakelings :/ . Any chance dragonite crystals could be put on a drakelings to make the run a wee more profitable . Anyway either I really don't think I'm outdpsing the script as mentioned above you can view how I kill one if ya pop over while I'm in there.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:27 pm 
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I'll have to check the code again maybe i missed something.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:39 pm 
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I'm not sure if you changed anything but today's egg farming went extremely well. Out of 6 eggs I got 4 shells one a drakeling and one broken egg.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:47 am 
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Still getting broken eggs after doing the stupid hit-pause-kick-pause method. Even stopped at 15% for over a minute and it broke.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:36 am 
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Ive not been using the above method but rather directly engaging the eggs with my warrior and I seem to get some eggshells today's drop rate was horrible though. I seem to get alot of "a drakelings" .

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:36 pm 
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I updated the code a bit, see if it helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:37 pm 
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/bump

Has this been updated so I don't have to /fd every 10% just to get decent spawn percentages.

I have noticed the amount of empty eggs have decreased, so I guess I'm not out dps'ing the script, but I think that's because I /fd every 10% which is a pain in the arse and slows the raid down considerably.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:12 pm 
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Not really, the eggs seem very resistant to change and give about the same broken/drakeling as before.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:52 pm 
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/agreed Fragile

I just hit the eggs when we were in there last night and got -0- eggshells from four eggs in T1. Not sure how rest of guild did in T2 as I logged before they worked on them.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:35 pm 
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I think some of you are overthinking the eggs. There is no reason that you should be hitting an egg, stopping, hitting, etc, it doesnt change anything. Just melee the egg with one person and be done with it. I typically just shoot them with my ranger and it works fine. The only tier that has an issue is t4 because the eggs are still coming empty occasionally. But the other tiers are all working fine. Lets say you have a 1/3 chance of getting a seething/enraged. Its very possible you could easily go 0/4. 4 eggs being broken is not really a large amount to gain insight from. I've been farming nest hardcore trying to find arrow augs and some days I'll go like 4/9 on eggshells in a tier and other days I'll only get one or two out of the 9 or so eggs in each tier. Basically like everything else its all luck, somedays you have it, somedays you don't (With the exception again of empty eggshells).

And if anyone really needs eggshells, I have plenty taking up inventory space. Feel free to send me a tell, I'll sell em cheap :)

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:42 pm 
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You got zero egg shells or eggs didn't pop anything?


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:09 pm 
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I'm still seeing breaks in t4 every now and then. Yesterday we had 2 breaks out of the first three eggs. But other days we won't have any at all and will see 3 shells out of the 4 eggs on the way to Vion.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:41 am 
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/bump

Still insanely low shell drops in all tiers.

We did T2 and T3 and got all the eggs in each tier. I was breaking the eggs and stopped dps'ing every 10 percentage, give or take, for a few seconds before continuing. I believe in T2 we got 3 shells total and in T3 we got 2 shells total. I don't remember how many eggs we did in each tier, but we did 'em all so I'm thinking about 8-10, give or take. This equates to about 20%...which seems really, really low...how are we supposed to gear people up with rates this low for the shells needed for the armor...I just don't get it.

If you full out dps on the eggs, no abilities but no stopping the dps either, the percentage drops drastically on getting any shells, to approximately 10% if you're lucky.

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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:30 pm 
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They are set to spawn something that can drop at shell 60% of the time. I am not sure why your rates are so low as long as something is popping out of these shells. I also added some many more eggs I am little stumped when its so low.


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 Post subject: Re: Nest Eggshells ....
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Alright, I think its time to fix this issue once and for all.

Drakes will now spawn from the eggs upon the death of the egg. This should eliminate the empty egg shell problem once and for all, and you don't need to play games with your DPS ect.

IF there is still an issue let me know.

Also added an extra chance for a named in T3 from eggs.


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